“High School” Escalation with the Thai Girl
She just left. It was our third date, and the third time I had her back to my place. Second time in my bed. I took things further, but no sex.
Being real for a minute, I’m not disappointed, but I was ready to be inside this girl and she wouldn’t let happen tonight.
“Next time,” as she is fond of saying.
Tonight… she took a car to my house. We said hello to the cats. Then I took her to dinner. I had promised her some Japanese, so I took her to an Izakaya place. (Same place I took Firecracker on Sunday, actually). It was delicious, she liked it, it was fun.
She wore a dress… like she always does. Her thin, cream-colored legs – legs for days – drawing my eyes from her little boots up to the outline of her ass under that sheer material.
For the record… I think she 23-26. That’s my guess. She’s not that young… I feel like I need that disclaimer for the rest of this story.
After dinner, my house. Some ice cream… she loves ice cream. We played with the cats a bit. I showed her my art.
She’s hyper. In my first post about her, I said she was a “teenager.” I don’t actually want to date any teenagers (some carnal fantasies aside), but if I did… I bet the energy would be like it is with this one.
She thinks everything is funny. She’s constantly jiggling around (Jiggling? Yeah, I guess.) and laughing, often for what seems to me like no reason. Most of that is in the realm of annoying. If you’ve read this blog, I rarely think the girls I date are annoying. She is close to that, sometimes. Like I’m babysitting… in a completely perverse way.
But she can slow down, here and there, I like her better in those moments. And one way to get her to slow down, is to tell her to. Which I’ve done, and she takes direction pretty well. For this, I’m grateful, as she is teaching me to be more comfortable with a type of dominance.
So, ice cream, art, and I say, “come on,” and pull her down the hall to my room. It’s a little cold, so I get her into the flannel sheets… freshly changed after Firecracker and I ruined them on Sunday night. She’s goofy. Hyper. I made her take her big, expensive looking earings off earlier, so I could suck her ears. I’m doing that. Mostly just giggles. I’ve never seen her “passionate” or “turned on.” Maybe she has been, but I can’t tell from the display she gives me.
See what I mean? Even thou every girl is different… this is not the sex I’m used to.
But I tell her to put her hand on my chest, and she does, and tell her to kiss me, and she does, and I get hard, and put her hand on my cock. Okay, I’m turned on.
I can’t seem to get her to purr, so I get her to make me purr… which works better. I learned this from Lance Mason, like so much of the rest of my education.
And I tell her I’m going to take her dress off, which is still on, and I do. And she’s shy. And there is a tiny bit of seriousness amidst the goofiness… which is a nice change. And then I unhook her bra, and she squirms, and clasps it close to her chest. And I test her, by kissing her, and pulling her arms above her head, and then pull her bra away, to expose these tiny pink nipples on small Thai boobs. I suck them and… she giggles.
It’s like that. I’m in bed w/ a 20-something Thai “teenager.” It’s a little dumb. And a little sexy. It’s both. It’s an experience. I haven’t seduced a teenager since I was 21.
I roll her over on her side to get her panties off, and she won’t let it happen. Okay. She tells me they are loose (I have to help her find that word), and that I can get to her ass even with them on, and she’s right. But she’s squirming and pulling away when I go for anything close to her wet spot.
And we chat, about this or that. About fake boobs for a while. She has a lot of questions. She wants to know what they feel like, and I tell her what I know. Life really is different in Bangkok. I believe her. From our first date and the questions I asked then… sex seems like it’s different there too.
So, my go-to move with her, is to put her hand on my cock… which I never did until this year, amazingly, mostly because I have been slow to move in bed, and the girls I met before I got better with game were more aggressive than the girls I date now (and less feminine), and they would be after me at least as much as I was after them. So I put her hand on my cock, and it’s hot. She does seem to get a tiny bit more serious there as well. Good.
Is she enjoying the sex? I have no idea. I assume that under the laughter, is 1 part inexperience (I do not think she has had a lot of cocks in her), 1 part curious adventure, and 1 part psychology I can’t even guess at. I’ve never had a lover like this before. Maybe she wants experience too??
There is this one lesson I sort of learned, or taught myself, 2 years ago, with a “naïve” Japanese girl I was dating at the time. Maybe 8 dates, no sex. Some “high school escalation” with her, also. I think she was hung-up about sex, and I wasn’t that slick at the time, but any other girl would have either gotten after it or stopped dating me…
But the lesson I learned was this:
Escalate, within reason. Take her where you want to go, test her boundaries, and stop when she’s serious. And then, ask her out again. If she says yes to another date, what you did last time (within reason, boys!) was probably okay. This is not “consent” as the social justice freaks would have us do… I’m not having her sign a goddamn contract at each move. Fuck that. But this is my model for “sex-shy” girls. And that’s what I did w/ that Japanese girl… I’d escalate, she’d stop me, I’d respect that, and she would date me again, come over again, and that was my sign that it was cool to go further.
For girls that don’t really communicate, and don’t move as quickly as “normal” girls, this is the best model I have come up with.
So tonight, lots of this “high school” almost-sex. That’s what it feels like.
So at one point, she is licking my face. It’s goofy. Kind of kissing me, but more being “mock sexy” and she’s laughing. And I put her hand on my cock again. And then I tell her to suck my nipple. Which she does. And then I tell her to put her mouth on my cock… and she pauses… so I say it again, and she does. And it was… hot. I would tell her what I wanted, and she’d do it. And it felt great.
And then she’d come up, and chat, and laugh, and kiss me again. And chill. And she was a little slower. Maybe this is all nerves on her part?
And I suck on her hip bones, but she’s quick to push me away when I go too far in our high school “dance.”
I think there is a small chance she was on her period tonight. Who knows? I really can’t read behind the shine in this girls eyes. I really don’t know.
And she sucks my cock once more, and I tell her I want her to make me come (as sex seems off the table), and she giggles, and says…
“Next time.” And she laughs some more… a little slower, and more maniacal this time.
And it’s midnight, and she says she needs to sleep, so she puts on her clothes. Bra, facing away from me. Then her dress. Then she’s clothed, with those delicious legs holding her thin body off my hardwood floors. I put on a pair of shorts and a tshirt, walk her downstairs, and she disappears into a car.
Do I even bother to change the sheets before Thursday’s date with the online girl? Probably not. No Thai girl come on these sheets… that’s for sure.
HER: I got home.
HER: Thank you for tonight!!!!
HER: so much fun ??
NASH: You’re so welcome, sweet girl.
NASH: Sleep good!
NASH: Thank you.
HER: You are welcome ?
That certainly seems positive. And her little “bikini” emoji is her being sexy with me… I guess. She’s done that before. She’s flirting.
Any guesses what is going thru her mind? What do we think this girl is interested in? What’s her story? She is a completely new breed for me.
I am buying her dinners, yes, but I am certain she is actually a rich girl from Thailand. She has her own condo, and a Mercedes there — that’s not her money, that’s her parents cash. Her clothes are very nice. She is cultured, traveled, confident. She doesn’t want my money… and I’ve made no reference to that, ever. I’m not really taking her expensive places. Comfortable, but no big deal.
I am having fun with her, and I think I’ll end up having sex with her. But I am very curious as to what this all means to her. What is going thru her head?
As she left I explained what the word “lover” means to her. I told her that she and I are lovers. It’s true…
She is one of the strangest lovers I’ve ever had.
Daygame, will put you in touch with girls you would never otherwise know. And if you play your cards right, you’ll end up in bed. And she will be your next lover. And maybe she will act like a teenager… and she’ll suck your cock, but won’t get you off. And it’ll be some kind of strange and wonderful experience.
I’m in this for the experiences.
“Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.”
I wouldn’t make this girl a priority. On to the next one.
>> I wouldn’t make this girl a priority. On to the next one.
I won’t make her a priority, but I’ll see her again…
I was thinking about your comment… if had no options, I would see her again as she is into the dance and I think the sex will happen. And as I have a lot of girls in the funnel right now… I’ll see her again because I can be more patient, as this isn’t my only option.
^ “Dog” psychology.
>> the sex is NEVER worth the wait.”
Great point. Rollo is awesome.
But for me, that’s an answer to the wrong question. Is the sex worth it? The night it happens, it will probably will be worth it… for that night. Even if it sucks.
But this experience is already giving me what I want. Time with a strange/interesting girl. More examples of a girl in the model. Even her body is pretty different than any girl’s body I’ve ever known (… strange little Thai nipples). More opportunity to “dance” and see her psychology and try to understand why she likes spending time with this white beast — which she does.
That is why this is “worth it” for me.
It’s true, I could get frustrated at any point and this whole thing could sour for me… but the experience is in the bank. I’m seeing. I’m learning. We’ll see.
““Next time.” And she laughs some more… a little slower, and more maniacal this time.”
Everything in this story sounds to me like she’s cooking you for a long term relationship, AKA doesnt want you to devaluate herself by having sex. Now this means that she likes you a lot and wants you to hook you for real, or can mean that she doesnt like you enough to lose her shit for it. Can mean that she’s not ovulating (they lose the shit and go for it when they are ovulating). There’s a lot of info missing here to know.
1) Are you touching her pussy? fingers in? rubbing?
2) How much is the high school escalation your doing, how much is her doing?
3) Does she give you a virginal vibe? or a sexually sophisticated vibe?
4) What I get from the story is that she’s sexually sophisticated and is enjoying being a cat with a mouse. Who is the cat and who is the mouse, you or her?
Bottom line – this girl, eh, woman, is 25? she’s been done sex before, she’s being in your apartment from day one, keeps going there and progressing towards sex. So sex is going to happen. The only thing missing here is the price.
The price will be either that you Alpha up, or Beta down.
Im not seeing it in in this story, but the cues are there, were there, will be there next time.
It could also be her puzzle – maybe “doing it like I learned to do in highschool” is the puzzle. Could be a filtering mechanism to keep the notch count down since most guys wont go through it.
>> So sex is going to happen. The only thing missing here is the price.
Yohami… that is smart, and poetic. Nicely done.
>> 1) Are you touching her pussy? fingers in? rubbing?
Some, not much, she was a squirm champ last night.
>> 2) How much is the high school escalation your doing, how much is her doing?
Well… on the “surface,” I am escalating, I don’t feel like this is *my* pace. But, knowing you, and the way you see this kind of thing… it is possible some of this *is* me. Perhaps in ways I can’t see. That’s plausible.
>> 3) Does she give you a virginal vibe? or a sexually sophisticated vibe?
I think she is genuinely conservative. She makes a very big deal about how Thai people do NOT talk about sex with each other. You lose friends over that kind of thing, she says.
She does not seem “sophisticated.” She has almost no sexual response… and when she “acts sexy,” it’s always in a clown-y way, like when she was licking my face. Again, very “lolita” type of sexiness… she has the poison, but isn’t sure exactly how it works. That’s my read. Childish “sexy.”
As I say that… I would add she feels healthy to me. I don’t think this girl has been abused or has been in bad situations. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see much shadow at all.
>> What I get from the story is that she’s sexually sophisticated and is enjoying being a cat with a mouse.
I think there is some of this too… she might be enjoying the power, that would make sense. I am clearly not the cat here. I’m an oversized mouse, bigger than her, trying get her to get serious.
“She makes a very big deal about how Thai people do NOT talk about sex with each other. ”
THAI must be a crazy country, with prostitution of all ages and sexes being everywhere and normalized, then Buddhism everywhere and normalized, and this? I guess the upper cast is prude? losing friends for talking sex, when you to go to the street and can get a sexual massage from a nine year old boy, and watch girls play ping pong with their vaginas.
Mind blown! I’d have thought sex wouldnt be much of a deal. Maybe that’s how they do the social castes?
Yeah. I like your read.
I assume all people are the same, everywhere and in every time… but this could be “surface rules” for her in her social class. She has said over and over that talking about sex makes you an outcast.
I like seeing the POV in each new girl. Not saying she is representitive.. but she’s a new POV. I like it.
“I like seeing the POV in each new girl.’
“I was ready to be inside this girl ” -Nash
UPDATE: So this morning, there was a rather big wad of toilet paper in my bathroom trash. A mummified “something,” and any man that has lived with a woman knows what that is.
So, she was on her period. I don’t know how different it would be if she hadn’t been… but that’s my read as of this morning.
>> What I get from the story is that she’s sexually sophisticated
Now that I know why she wouldn’t let me take her panties off… my question remains as to what she thinks about sex? Even with the period part, girls still moan. They still breath heavy when you suck their neck, ears, nipples, hip bones. This girl, if anything just laughs a little deeper.
The Taiwanese girl really bloomed for me sexually… about the 4th time I fucked her. She was relaxing, and showing me more and more… like telling me to tell her that her pussy feels good. That, after starting off completely “dead fish.”
So I know girls will reveal what they want to reveal.
I’m curious as to what is behind this teenagers curtain. *eh hem* So to speak.
Ok, so she’s in the period – that’s where her horniness is in it’s lowest. In two weeks she’ll be ovulating, that’s where “bad decisions happen”, “one night stands”, “alpha fucks beta bucks”, “yolo”, etc.
If you’re high status enough (or she sees you that way) the period wont matter, girls will come bleeding after you. But this one, pay attention in 15 days. If she’s coming for cock then she’s in the bag, if she’s making excuses and has dinner or other plans, her pussy is eating alpha cock and you’ve been put in a “relationship material” or “beta orbiter” category.
Or maybe you’ll be banging her this weekend like a champ.
>> if she’s making excuses and has dinner or other plans, her pussy is eating alpha cock and you’ve been put in a “relationship material” or “beta orbiter” category.
Yeah… we’ll see. You’re right about “period,” girls are often trying to convince me they are fine “on the last day,” they’re not waiting.
It’s interesting that she might be trying to BF me… especially as I gave her the “lover” talk as I walked her out last night. I wasn’t posturing, I just like that frame. I told her a lover is like a BF, but more fun. True.
>> Or maybe you’ll be banging her this weekend like a champ.
Yeah… I am spinning plates right now.
— Pinged Firecracker today, no response yet (or to the last msg from Mon)
— If she comes back fun, she gets her choice of Sat/Sun (not telling her that, but it’s true)
— Pinged Miss Xi’an for a date for Fri, before I go for beers w/ my wing Hurricane
— Will pause for a bit, and then (based on Firecracker), will ping Thai girl for Sat/Sun spot
— From there, will ping Miss Sincere for remaining spots…
So, I will be “banging like a champ” with Firecracker or Thai girl, if the force is with me… I just like Firecracker more. And will try to move Miss Sincere deeper into the model as a backup, and/or get her out next week… I am interested to see her again.
Thai girl had my hormones way up last night… couldn’t sleep until 3… thinking about that “high school blowjob.”
“Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.”
this is how PUAs only end up with sluts and BP girls.
And this is how blue pillers end up getting fleeced for dinners, dates, and validation.
It’s a balance, my friend.
The first comment on the post sums it up well:
“This doesn’t come down to “she has to fuck me in three dates or else”, it is about having an awareness of when you are dealing with ASD and when you are dealing with a woman who is less than thrilled with your presence. There is still going to be a little resistance with some women even if they do want sex.”
The fact that she was on her period changes my feelings about this specific situation. But if she doesn’t give it up the next time, NEXT.
I’m new to this site and it looks like you’re doing some good work there champ. From the sounds of this story, having been to Thailand, and being someone who knows a lot about surgery I’d hazard a guess at this one being a post op and bein scared of you finding out about it. Women love having alpha dick inside them. They love sex. Getting alpha seed is payday for them genetically. So if she’s making you wait then there’s a *cerebral* not an emotional reason. If t was emotional she would never have sucked your dick. And the post ops can be very well practiced at that stuff. And it’s ask why she offered you the ass and not the poon. Just a thought.
She is a girl, dude. Ha.
Definitely? Then I’d think her not putting out is one of 2 things. Either you’re not congruent with the alpha vibe you want to put out so she is smelling some beta or insecurity in you. Or she does see you as the alpha and doesn’t want to get pumped and dumped. Maybe you need to show some vulnerability (not weakness, they’re slightly different) to show her that you’re human and aren’t a caricature of some macho man. Make a genuine connection. You have to actually want to fuck her and enjoy spending time with her for it to happen. Good work again boss.
That’s how I read the situation too – based on the story written. I suspect there’s more to it, bits missing, cues.
But sure – 1) she does see him as the alpha and wants to cook him so he invests more and land a relationship or 2) she doesnt see him as the alpha yet and wants to make sure.
The required action is either “alpha up” if she doesnt see him as alpha yet, or “beta down” if she sees him as too much alpha and wants a relationship. What is it?
Put a camera and let us see, Nash. Dont be cruel.