Sex with Velvet Mouth
She counts as my 3rd daygame lay. This is the Filipina Mom I picked up on the sidewalk at night… but daygame/gutter game style, where she was sober but I had a couple beers in me. Cold approach, on the street. Daygame in the dark.
As I said when I first wrote about her, I didn’t know she was a mom when I picked her up. She has a young, cute face, very fresh. As I sexed her last night, I spent a lot of time enjoying that face… she still looks 25 to me. Perfect beautiful smile and a sexy mouth. I found out she was mid-30s, and a mom, on our first date. So this is not about YHT, but it is a lay report.
“She’s there because she wants to fuck you already.” (about the Girl with the Boyfriend)
“She wants to fuck, the ball is in your court. Make it happen.” (about Miss Shanghai)
“She wanted to have sex.” (about Velvet Mouth)
Yohami thinks this girl is gross because of her age. So when I mention him here, it’s about his comments about game, not his approval of this girl as a place to spend my time or park my cock. That’s the Yohami disclaimer.
I have spent some time resisting Yohami’s mantra that a given girl “just wants to fuck.” This is not Madonna/Whore stuff from me. I am aware and delighted that women like to get nasty as much or more than I do. It’s just a question of when in the seduction she is ready for that.
I am of the opinion 2-3 dates is a perfectly normal, healthy pace for sex. Even for players, or men like “Chad.” (Are Chad and Yohami the same guy? Perhaps.) Torrero and Krauser have talked about losing girls when you try to go faster than that. I am sure there are girls that are specifically “down to fuck,” as we say, but I don’t assume that every stage of the process like Yohami does.
In this case, she seems like she was, in fact, DTF. The kind of DTF where you should take her straight to the sex location and get it done. That’s not what I did, but I’m noting that I could see this as the date went down.
I had her meet me near her work, near where I picked her up. My plan was dinner to connect a bit, then my place.
As we meet up, she looks cute, with a huge, trusting smile. She’s very into me. I asked if she was hungry, and she makes a face like “meh.” I tell her I’m hungry, so that’s what we’re doing, and she accepts that plan.
We get in a car, and I grab her and kiss her. And she jumps into it. She is all about the making out, ferociously so, her “velvet mouth” all over mine, her little teeth cutting my lip here and there. It’s really on, really fast. I have a hard cock and I consider canceling dinner and going straight to my place.
Sometimes… Yohami is exactly right.
Dinner was great and I was happy to eat. I did get a chance to connect a bit with her, which I like for me, as much as for the girl.
Back to my house after dinner, no objections. She likes my place, doesn’t care much about my cats, likes the view much more. I am about to offer the traditional Nash Game cheesecake, but the look in her eyes is not about desert, so I kiss her and drag her down the hallway to my bedroom.
No resistance whatsoever.
She is all purrs and affirmative noises as I makeout some more and peel her clothes off.
As I start to go down on her, she says “I’m not used to this” in a cute, clearly nervous voice with that Filipino clip to it. I tell her to relax. I notice that she is very recently shaved clean.
Some oral, some fingers. She is juicy and making joyful noises.
I come up for air, wipe her off my face and we makeout some more. I then undo my jeans and tell her to put her mouth on my cock. She does… for 3 seconds. The velvet heat of her mouth is fucking amazing. And she stops, slides back up my body, smiles, and tells me “I’m not used to this,” in the same cute tone as before. Cuddles up to me. Kisses me.
I make her suck my cock some more — just as brief the second time — and then I put on the worlds best condom and slide into her. It feels great. In part, because it’s a notch, as that is part of how we measure our education in this game. I have, in fact, seduced another one, from cold street approach to sex. It also felt good, because, you know, fucking feels really good. Dur.
I am taking my time, drawing it out, enjoying myself. I tell her I am holding back. She tells me that she already “finished” so I can come when I want. Ha. I don’t need permission to come, but I liked that she implied that I got her off.
Getting her off is not a requirement, but my ego likes to think that girls are enjoying the sex too. My ego clapped a little bit.
I had her below me as I got ready to climax, telling her her mouth is so hot I wanted to come on her lips, “but not tonight,” I said, and I finished inside her and curled up next to her, and she was affectionate and loving.
I ask about the “I’m not used to this” comments she was making during the foreplay. She reaffirms that… she has very little experience. I ask how many men she’s been with? She says, just her ex husband. They met when she was 19. I ask, so I am the 2nd guy you’ve had sex with? She says yes.
I believe her. I could tell by the look in her eyes that she has almost zero experience with foreplay. That was real.
As she is putting on her clothes, I laugh a bit at how inexperienced she is… but that her pussy was smooth and sex-ready for this date. I ask her, “So, are you always clean shaven?” She says, “No…,” and gives me a tense glance. I pull her in and kiss her and say, “You knew I was going to fuck you tonight, didn’t you.” She giggles in response.
And she has to go. She has to get back to her house, where she lives with her son, and her parents — who are babysitting and allowing her to spend some time in my bed.
I take her to the kitchen. We look at the view and I feed her bites of cheesecake. We split a tangerine — which are in season, and delicious. I call a car and we kiss a bit more as we wait the 3 minutes for the car to arrive.
She is so different than most of my daygame dates. I picked her up in a random part of town… so she is nothing like the wealthy girls I meet downtown, here in the US, living off of their parents money, taking classes in the most expensive city in the world.
She is economically from the lower class, but with perfect manners and the air of a girl from a traditional culture. She lives with her parents in a rough part of town. She takes the bus a lot. I do to, everyday, but she’s not used to men like me.
And it was great, just the way it was. Another daygame lay. I’m not really bragging, but I am happy.
And she’s not the girl I want to be fucking, but… she’s the girl I am fucking.
And it was another interesting experience. A view of life through the proximity to another girl. A girl with a very different life than my own.
I am in game for experience. I am in game for experiences. This was another experience, another chapter in my education.
One of my favorite parts of this whole game is meeting different girls I never would have connected with before — and fucking them.. I can’t imagine dating girls within my social circle; so boring. We already know each other, have the same wants and desires.
Game means opening yourself up to the 3.5 billion women in this world. And that’s beautiful.
I agree here, 100%.
I always say I don’t want to be a “spectator,” that I want to know, I want a view from the playing field.
Mating/dating is my favorite topic, and fucking girls from “beyond my neighborhood” (geographically and psychologically) is part of what gives me some credibility as a seducer and someone that knows women and this process.
Onward and upward…
And if you’re around this week man, I’m going out Monday… come join me before the rain is back.
Oops. I’ve not been leaving my real email, so I’m not getting the notifications. Text me when you’re going out next.
Congrats man! comments:
“Yohami thinks this girl is gross because of her age.”
I blame biology.
“I am of the opinion 2-3 dates is a perfectly normal, healthy pace for sex. ”
Notice the framing. “Healthy” and “Normal”, that should tell you everything.
Now ask this question. Would Brad Pitt or Justin Bieber wait 3 dates? would SHE wait three dates?
What has healthy and normal gotta do with it?
Sex, for her, is about collecting your seed. For you, it’s about planting your seed. You already qualified her, for the most part, by taking action and pursuing it. She qualifies you back by saying YES to your advance. The rest of the time spent from Hi to sex is a mix of foreplay and further screening, you screen if she’s worthy of your semen and she screen’s for quality. This doesn’t have a time stamp set, and specially not a time that can be quantified in dates. I’ve been laying out what you have to pay attention to in her to move forward.
When guys fail at this is because they miss the cues and dont push forward when there is an opening, and instead push forward against walls, or create riddles or complexities on their own, like your ‘tussle’ where you play that weird conflict game against yourself.
You don’t have to be “normal”, you have to be ‘exceptional’ and you don’t have to be ‘healthy’ but ‘superior’ and ‘natural’. What follows is you swinging your dick (your value) in front of her, watching her react, you double down when she’s aroused, and hold back when there’s a wall, waiting for an opening to double down in. You elevate the temperature, guiding her hand, leading her home, not presenting any obstacle, while ignoring hers. It’s like fucking, since the beginning. You put the dick in and then follow that moan, changing positions to keep the energy up excercising your dominance.
Anyway, who’s Chad?
“Are Chad and Yohami the same guy? Perhaps.”
“Torrero and Krauser have talked about losing girls when you try to go faster than that.”
Don’t have game.
If you push past the point where she’s ready you lose the girl for showing miscalibration. If you wait past the point the same. If you show lack of congruence with the Pitt/Bieber guy she thinks she’s bedding, she’ll switch your category to creep or beta. You gotta be consistent with the alpha behavior that you exhibited when you picked her up. The guy who can open a girl in the street and take her to a date can fuck her quickly because his semen is high value. Unless you water it down and take a beta road which goes in contradiction with what you did before.
“The kind of DTF where you should take her straight to the sex location and get it done.”
This is every girl when you have pressed the right buttons. This one is taking you off-base so you don’t know what she reacted to. You solved “the puzzle” without trying.
The danger here is it will validate the wrong framework.
Pay attention to what they respond to – doesn’t matter if you succeed or fail. Always KNOW what she responds to, what she wants, what’s the puzzle, where are the walls, where are the openings. ALWAYS pay attention, so you dont fall in self-reaffirming loops that lead you in the wrong directions. A success where you don’t know what worked is more dangerous than a failure where you don’t know what worked, in that the success will prompt you to think you found a law and repeat a scheme (chesscake trap, tussle, number of dates) and become a ‘culture’ for you that is dissasociated from reality. Pay attention to reality. In this case, the reality is her.
” I asked if she was hungry, and she makes a face like “meh.” ”
She wants to go straight to sex, easy puzzle.
” And she jumps into it.”
“I consider canceling dinner and going straight to my place.”
Your gut is wise.
“Sometimes… Yohami is exactly right.”
Hey Im always right.
” I am about to offer the traditional Nash Game cheesecake”
Watch yourself and how your previous successes become the new bullshit. This is how your tussle pattern originated. You don’t need the cheesecake. She’s there for you.
“No resistance whatsoever”
Which is the natural thing. This is the path. The path of no resistance. This is what you’ve been looking for. This is what you have to memorize and learn to find. This is firecracker when you made her wet the first time, Honest girl when you went down and intimate the first time, Thai girl when you made out in the street.
Your lesson here is to find that moment, then raise it to 11 and make them come.
Then go for the next one as if this all meant nothing to you.
No resistance whatsoever. Specially none coming from you.
This is what I call “put the foot in the accelerator”.
Let her have the brake.
Then drive in a way she never uses it.
“I’m not used to this” […] ” I notice that she is very recently shaved clean.”
Anti slut defense but she clearly prepared for this, so she knows whats going on and PLANNED for this.
Burn that image of her shaved for you, while you still think you needed the cheesecake. She’s playing ahead of you. To become really good you have to be playing ahead of them. Then all of them are YES girls.
“I tell her I am holding back.”
“Getting her off is not a requirement, but my ego likes to think that girls are enjoying the sex too. My ego clapped a little bit.”
Sex is better when they come.
“She reaffirms that… she has very little experience.”
You know, she’s just a nice prude girl who has sex on the second date with a guy she just met on the street and hasnt seen for more than 3 hours.
A real unicorn.
“I ask, so I am the 2nd guy you’ve had sex with? She says yes.”
A rare gem. She would never do this. She’s practically brand new.
“I believe her. ”
“I could tell by the look in her eyes that she has almost zero experience with foreplay. That was real.”
Oh absolutely, but then…
“and gives me a tense glance. ”
You’ve found the wall when exposing her BS and putting her on the spotlight.
“You knew I was going to fuck you tonight, didn’t you.”
Since you talked to her on the street.
“I am happy.”
That’s what counts man.
Unrelated but related.
Im finishing my first original game and talking to publishers. I contact them out of the blue with a demo for my game and some sales pitch. Most of them ignored me. A couple responded me but didn’t understand what it is about and rejected it for absurd reasons. A couple want to see more of it when it’s more ready. One wants it now and would turn abusive if I said yes.
Everything is like pick up. I gathered some info, not much because the interactions are so short, but I think I know what to improve on the game to increase it’s value, and do another round when the game is closer to it’s ideal Pitt/Bieber state, then I’ll pitch to the same women, sorry, publishers and see which legs, eh, opportunities open, then iterate.
I hate this phase.
I hate it because I get rejected but don’t get enough info on how to change, what to adapt to, what to raise to, not enough info on what’s lacking.
I’d love if I could sit on the table with publishers and clear out the details, go back and forth and get honest, detailed information about what to do, what’s lacking, how to improve, how much it would be, what can be the profits.
But Im not on that table because I havent crossed the threshold yet. Im a nobody- my game has potential but is not fully realized. The publishers are being bombarded by better opportunities than me – investing that time in having that conversation with me is a waste of their time –
But these conversations do happen, these opportunities are taken, deals happen fast, games make millions, it’s all there. It’s all happening. Just not for me, yet, at this stage.
So the LAST thing I’d want to do is make this space Im into, into my reality. This is a transitional stage. There’s nothing, or, very little to be gained in sending this same game, same everything, to more and more publishers, magazines and what not and try to move it. More of THIS wont get me to where I want, which is to be at the top.
Which summarizes why I blast against PUA / Daygame.
This is a transition stage. The game really starts once I cross the threshold and Im the one having conversations, making deals, leading the market. There’s an infinite world up there. And none down here.
Or, Girl Tornado is where it’s at. That’s where all the learning is.
If I had spent 10 years in the gaming industry I could make my first game and send it to publishers and I’d already knew what buttons to press and what they want, the game would be a ‘brad pitt’, they would say yes, cold approach would work.
Cold approach is not working for me because it’s not the method. It’s the who.
Im improving the game for round 2. Then more publishers will be interested. My goal is that in a few months I don’t even need a publisher and the market is craving the game, or that publishers are fighting for it. We’ll see.
Your goal in Game is to become that man who has the girls fighting for him. It’s not about collecting leads and funneling them, but picking up which one of them you want to fuck.
I did it in seduction. Same skills apply everywhere.
Gonna make me rich.
Get rich too!
hell yeah, nash!
This fat fuck is always right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2LeEb4rIkw