TYO: SDL with A Japanese Idol, +1 Tokyo
I had one of my favorite sexual experiences of my life last night. Met her yesterday daytime, sex last night. A 24 year old “Idol.” I am still love drunk from the experience.
One of the bits of reality I am beginning to see as the Girl Tornados teach me about mating and dating, is that getting a same day date is very possible. Realistically, I think I can get a same day date about 30% of the times I try for one. Obvious to some, but is now becoming true for me and where I am with game.
I had a same day date with the Korean girl last Fall. I wasn’t aiming for it, she popped up in a typical daygame session. And then I was actually aiming for it in Dec and I got it done with Miss Taiyuan. That one was very intentional, so it meant something to me. The Nurse I had sex with on this trip also started with a same day date.
This time, I had been dating for several nights in a row – Saturday thru Tuesday. It was now Wednesday, and I wanted to run some more street approaches. While I also had dates set up for Thursday and Friday, I could not seem to put together a date for Wednesday night. I was purposefully not messaging a couple of girls as I was curious as to what the street could provide. I am glad I did.
(BTW, this kind of abundance is similar to what hot girls have. If you wonder how they can be so carefree and dismissive of our offers, slow to respond even when it’s obvious they have fun with you, etc., it’s because they have million options. I am working hard, my game is adequate, I have a ton of leads, new ones every time I go out, so I can act like a “hot girl” for now. And I am acting like a hot girl. I’ve said “no” and blown off a few opportunities on this trip. This is mostly new to me.)
My idol was the 8th girl of the day. As she strolled by, texting, with a girly smile on her face, the word that came to my mind was “sunny.” I stopped her, and told her so. Nice, comfortable, graceful reaction to the stop. Like most girls here, she denied that she could speak English, but we limped along well enough.
As I asked what she was doing in that neighborhood, she said she was on Holiday from Nagoya. When I asked what she did for work she said:
HER: I am idol.
Now I know what the word idol means in English, but I was uncertain what it meant in Japanese culture. And as I am a big fan of J-porn, I’d also heard pornstars called adult video (JAV) idols, but I assumed this girl was no porn star. In set, I didn’t show much interest in her job. She didn’t make a big deal out of it.
She was here for a few more days, and I know a girl on vacation can often be down for sex. I had sex last trip with a married woman from Nagoya I picked up at a restaurant.
As I went to take my idol’s number to “have a drink sometime,” she said “now?” And while I already knew she was on her way to hang out with some friends, I could tell she was interested. I took her Line contact and we left it that we might have a drink that same night. She double checked the time as we parted ways, to be sure we had it settled. Again, I took that as real interest.
I ended up picking up two “idols” that day, but I liked this one best. I took 4 leads altogether, from 14 approaches, she was my favorite lead of the day. Good, high-ROI daygame session.
About the “idol” thing, I messaged my new friend Stealth, a local daygame king, to get more details on what I should assume:
NASH: What is an “idol” exactly? Like a model, sort of, that dances??
NASH: Took numbers from two “idols” today. I want to know what that means.
STEALTH: Hehe idols are basically young girls who sings and acts cute in public. But most of them are girls who are in denial thinking they’re top stars lol
STEALTH: Basically like wannabe celebrities lol
That is about what I thought. No disrespect, but no big deal either… unless the girl herself is a big deal. The second girl definitely thinks she is a celebrity, so I am running more aggressive game with her. This one, was chill and charming. Nice girl.
I finished my session, messaging all the new girls and several others to keep the tornado spinning. I pinged her:
NASH: Hello Sunny Girl
HER: Oh!thank you!! : )
today’s 22:00 Shibuya?
Felt pretty on. I was a little surprised, but ready. I set the “Gelato Trap,” had some dinner, did some work and ran out to meet her.
She was early. I have now met six girls at this spot so I texted her and told her to come to me. She did, and she looked pretty cute, maybe a little cautious.
We get outside and she is increasing cautious. She wants to know where we are going, and is making sure there are non-alcoholic options. I love the spot I’m taking her to as it is cool, but will easily pass this kind of inspection. Great, versatile spot. I have taken three girls there so far.
I say it is close (two blocks), many people there, but almost all Japanese, has food, has many kinds of drinks, that it’s relatively quiet and totally cool spot. Good music. All that is true.
Her lips are slightly pulled back, in a fear gesture. I am usually surprised in the other direction, at how trusting girls are with “a bad man like me” they barely know. But she is surprisingly worried, and we are in a very populated, well-lit area.
I show her the drink spot on the map on my phone, and she looks up the place on her own phone, and we finally get her moving. I tell her I know that she doesn’t know me, and she needs to stay safe, but that maybe she is dangerous too! She laughs.
Once she sees the place, she is cool. I tease her again about her caution. Making a big show of making sure she thinks the place is safe. She laughs. We take a four-person seat, so we can get side-by-side. I tell her to scoot over, and she does, no hesitation.
She orders tea, I have a whiskey. We’re underway.
Her English is not great. But… This overachiever added a second translator to his phone this same day, the Microsoft app, and had the offline language pack for Japanese installed so I was fucking good to go, even in this old warehouse space with poor cell reception. That preparation might be why I got laid. Many factors contribute to a proper seduction. Me adding a good “offline” language app was part of tonight’s success.
In terms of her English, she was about 90% translator app, very little comprehension at all.
And she does this very cute thing… “Very cute thing?”… Where she repeats whatever you say or type in the translator… “Type in the translator?”… But turns each line into a question as she repeats it… “A question as she repeats it?”
I loved it. Charming. : ]
She also says “wow.” A lot. She is like a subdued anime girl. Not dumb, just very positive and feminine. Addictively charming.
She is just ending her idol thing, ready for “the next stage” of her life. She said all that with a proud, simple smile. She plays guitar. She is doing some music reviews for publications. Studied broadcast journalism at a junior college. Lives at home. Loves cats. I liked her. Nice little date.
This date was not very sexual, other than me making it clear I think she is cute, telling her I want to bite her, pulling her hair, etc. All lighthearted. Same physical stuff I’ve done on all my dates. I had not kissed her.
And the moment of truth…
I say, “Do you like gelato?” She does, so I say, “I have some really delicious gelato. Let’s go to my place and we’ll have some gelato and listen to some music and I’ll show you some of my art.” No argument, she said “okay.”
Damn, that was easy.
I know from Tom Torero’s Stealth Seduction videos that he doesn’t say where they are going, he just pulls. No reference to “my house.” I know my Tokyo buddy Stealth does this too. Leads toward the sex location. Maybe someday I will do that, but for now I like the transparency of saying where we are going. I threw her in a cab to make it quick and warm, and we were at my place 10 minutes later.
As we walked in, I showed her “comfortable?” on the app, and she said “yes!” She was fine. Interesting how she was sooooo careful before the drink spot, but going back to my house was fine, no nerves at all. She had already screened me, I was safe and “in.”
Music, some gelato, and I said “come her” and stepped in and kissed her. She still had the gelato spoon in her hand, but kissed me back mildly. More gelato, and kissing, and it seemed on.
Moved her to the bed, started undressing her as we made out. No resistance at all.
That is when I was sure I was going to sex this little girl.
Sex. Including the best blowjob I have had in years. I figured she had had plenty of experience. It was so good. Rhythmic, well timed, fantastic. I licked every part of her young body. She was delicious and compliant. I put on the world’s best condom and fucked her for 15-20 minutes. A very good deal.
+1 Tokyo. My 2nd lay on this trip, and my 6th daygame lay, all since August. My first SDL from daygame.
I’ll stop here and say my goal for this trip was two new girls. Done and done. 23 and 24, both lovely girls. Good deal. I have 11 days left, we’ll see what else I can do before I leave.
Post sex she looked like she didn’t know what to do next. I pulled her in and cuddled her. We started working the translator and I explained the word “lover” to her, told her she was now my lover. Gave her a bunch of affection, which was easy. She was more adorable with each moment.
She was relaxing and the whole mess was getting juicier and better as we settled down with each other. We’d fucked. Pressures was off. Time to relax and enjoy each other.
I told her to please spend the night if she would like that. She was as compliant as any other part of the night. Cuddled into me.
If the Chinese Virgin is -0.5 points with her clothes off, this one was maybe +1 point naked. Oishii desu. I told her so all night.
She does not think she is pretty or sexy, and she is both. Her face may be a little plain, but her body was phenomenal. Trim, perfect skin, excellent muscle tone as she dances three days a week and works out as well. Not a hard body, just well sculpted. When I fucked her from behind, in addition to her perfect little ass, I could see all the smooth muscles of her back. Great body. Not a bit of body hair, and a trimmed bush (which I don’t care about… Japanese girls can go full natural and I might even like them more).
And… Dripping wet pussy at all times, all night. Amazing. Wow.
She knew I was safe about 5 minutes after we got to the drink spot.
She assumed there was a 50/50 chance we would have sex if we came back to my place.
I asked if she had a BF, and she does. Here in Tokyo, not back home in Nagoya. She wasn’t shy about telling me. She has “a feeling” that he is seeing another girl. (Maybe sex with me was revenge for that?) He is a “cool” guy, but a bit cold. He was too busy to see her on this trip… he works a lot, she said. She was staying in a hotel and with friends while she is here.
I asked about the world’s best blowjob, and if she has had a lot of experience with men. She swears I am the second guy she has fucked. She says the BF was the first, six months ago. I told her I am a lover, not a BF, she could be honest. I told her to confess! No way she could be that good with only one partner. She swore over and over, and we laughed together.
She says she got a “late start.” That she was very “careful” when she was younger. That the idol group she was in has a rule about no BFs. Etc. She is perfectly fuckable, very charming. She is a even a little bit famous. Hmmm. Very hard to believe that story but I almost do at this point. Yohami thinks I am gullible. I think he is right.
She slept over and it was wonderful. It was what I wish for myself. Tender, sexy, dreamy and fun all night.
We slept for maybe two hours, and she woke me up, touching me to keep me awake, and we fooled around for another hour. More talking via the translator. I didn’t fuck her again, despite my obvious inspiration, because I wanted to save some drive for The Nurse, whom I was to date the next night.
Back to sleep, up at 7:30 and I walked her to the train so she could check out of her hotel by 10. I was so reluctant to let her put her clothes back on. She is my type.
I will confess… The vibe of sex and affection was so strong, the flood of hormones so powerful, I had to fight not to telling her I loved her all night. I know better. I get it. I know what body chemicals can do to a man’s sanity. I am just stating the facts here.
Wow. Amazing. Those words were on repeat, as we didn’t need a translator to say any of that.
I love that girl. She is busy until she leaves. I am tempted to try and get her back to Tokyo before I go.
From later today:
HER: thank you, lover.
Congrats bro!! Your post is an inspiration, now I’m hungry for some sarging! An idol I’m currently seeing also gives me the best BJ in the world – maybe she does BJ lessons x3/week along with her dances LOL
Btw I’m very Stealth-like when I pull girls home. But the Legend I told you about who’s been killing it in Tokyo for 15+years is also semi-explicit. His usual line is: “let’s go watch a DVD”. He doesn’t say “home” – which makes it semi-explicit. He does this because he wants to determine the DTF’ness of the girl before trying to pull her home. “If she’s not compliant enough to come home, she’s not compliant for sex” – is his thought. If she’s reluctant to “watch a DVD”, he ends the date and go hunts.
On the other hand, to me the battle starts when she’s back at my place. I don’t physically escalate until then. The reason being, 90% of girls become DTF when you finger a girl. No matter what. When your finger is in there, a girl will almost ALWAYS be DTF. I’ve had the most non-DTF girls in the world turn-ON once the finger was in her. There must be a switch in there LOLLL
“let’s go watch a DVD”
I heard that one… let’s watch a movie, and it’s saturday midnight and you’re in a bar. Sure let’s go home watch the Little Mermaid.
“to me the battle starts when she’s back at my place.”
Not even a kiss before moving her to your place? if she’s at your place before any escalation that usually means she made up her mind not to have sex = increased barriers.
“The reason being, 90% of girls become DTF when you finger a girl.”
Yeah. You put the hand on her pussy and she’s DTF. You can be in public and she’ll want to go somewhere. A lot of my first kisses, I moved the hand to the boob and then to the pussy and that resulted in having sex sometimes 20 min after meeting a new girl. It’s magic.
“There must be a switch in there LOLLL”
It’s where rainbows are made!
Nope, not even a kiss. A lot of girls in Japan dislike public affection (even sluts!), and I’m so lazy bouncing her to a secluded area (because home is usually so close), so 90% of the time, I don’t kiss until she’s at home.
Another reason is the possibility of added resistance. Kiss -> Invite Home means possibility of escalation to sex. Some girls are excited but some avoid going home with you because sex might be on the table. I play it safe in that regards.
Down to experiment more escalation pre-pulling for science though!
Fingering in public is something I gotta try this year!!
“Down to experiment more escalation pre-pulling for science though!”
When I did it in public we were in bars / crowds both under some alcohol / OR alone in a private space in a public, like a corner or elevator where I pulled her. But no doubt some will like to do it in pub…
Nevermind I remembered at least one where it was very in public and everyone was looking at us, we were even in an elevated place. So it will depend on the girl and culture for sure, Im curious as how this would be like in Tokyo.
And yeah Home is the sex location.
Might or might not be cultural specific, but I feel like the moment Japanese girls agree to go home with you is the DTF signal. She’s not trusting you to the point where “Oh I’m sure he’s not gonna do anything sexual” but rather “Even if he does, I think I’ll be fine”?
Yeah there’s a cultural aspect to it in Japan where home is DTF.
Last year a Mexican female friend was so horny she wanted me to bang her on the streets in Cuba. I was so turned off I pushed her away while she literally tried to rape me LOL
WHAT A STORY!
“her body was phenomenal. Trim, perfect skin, excellent muscle tone as she dances three days a week and works out as well.”
this girl sounds incredible.
“The vibe of sex and affection was so strong, the flood of hormones so powerful, I had to fight not to telling her I loved her all night.”
i know the feeling!
nash you are on fire.
Yeah. It feels good. I almost feel needy about the Idol, it was such a good experience.
I had the Nurse over again last night, she was on her period, so we only fooled around. Nice date, again, and an incredible handjob from her, wow. Washing my sheets daily this week.
I am still very into the Nurse, but having her back to back with the Idol, the Idol is now the highlight of the trip. The Idol is hotter, yes, but that’s not all that made being with her so awesome. She and I had really good chemisty. Age difference was part of it. Really nice mix.
And I will add I feel like an addict as I am hustling to set up dates for the weekend and next week. I have my 2nd date tonight with Jafrica… she is so beautiful. I’m curious as to her sex-likelihood. But nothing planned in the evenings for almost a week. I’m not worried, but I want to take advantage of my last 9 days, and the work I have put in to get this Tornado humming like it is now.
And the Virgin is pushing for a meet for tomorrow day… she sounded like she might be getting a cold, and I DO NOT WANT TO BE SICK AGAIN THIS TRIP… so I tried to put her off until next week (#hotgirlgame), but she came back insisting she is fine, saying we should meet, so I will see what I can make of that opportunity.
I am a little out of control. I am going snowboarding on Monday just so I can say I did something in Japan besides hustle… even as I love that hustle!
With my official goal of “two new girls met,” I am, in some ways, starting to feel like I can relax. I had a lot to prove to myself here, and I’ve just about done it. This isn’t “luck.” That’s what I wanted to prove.
We are always gaming ourselves.
“I had a lot to prove to myself here, and I’ve just about done it.”
that’s what it means to be a man, we have to prove things to ourselves. that’s what our self identity is built on.
i think you are doing a kick ass job combining lessons and ideas from daygame, from yohami, your own ideas — it’s exciting and inspiring.
>> i think you are doing a kick ass job combining lessons and ideas from daygame, from yohami, your own ideas — it’s exciting and inspiring.
Cool man, thanks. As a writer, that is exactly what I am trying to do.
This is my type of contribution… a mix of aggregating and editing and writing. I sometimes call in synthesis. I did this in my skateboard business too. Very similar type of contribution.
Very happy for you man.
“this kind of abundance is similar to what hot girls have.”
Yes! so when they come to you, reply to you, are interested in you – means you’re the best option of the 100 fuckdates you were competing against.
“I am acting like a hot girl.”
““I have some really delicious gelato. Let’s go to my place and we’ll have some gelato and listen to some music and I’ll show you some of my art.” No argument, she said “okay.””
FUCKING BRAVO. She’s saying yes to sex. No need to ‘you’ll be kissed but I wont take my pants off” thing. GOOD. Score.
“Damn, that was easy.”
” “come here” and stepped in and kissed her.”
Like a champ.
“Moved her to the bed, started undressing her as we made out. No resistance at all.”
YES. YES. YES. YES. Fucking yes.
It is this easy.
“I asked if she had a BF, and she does.”
Yep. Nature is cruel.
“She swears I am the second guy she has fucked.”
Of course Nash, you’re special.
Actually you are – you are pulling the moves. You’re moving to the special category, so kudos for that. Still, this kind of thing is what every girl will say, and has said to you, me, and every other player. See, she’s not a girl who would fuck a player the same day he picks her up, she’s NOT that kind of girl, she’s actually a quasi virgin who actually requires a lot of more comfort, you know, like dating and commitment. Dont you dare think that her marriage value is represented at all by her ability to give a complete stranger the best blow job 50 min after meeting him.
“Yohami thinks I am gullible”
Girl tornado will cure that.
“I didn’t fuck her again, despite my obvious inspiration, because I wanted to save some drive for The Nurse”
Yes. That’s the abundance. Hey hun that was fun I’d love you to fuck you again but I need my energies for another fuckdate that I have in 40 min, get out of the way please?
“I had to fight not to telling her I loved her all night”
Yep. It does mess up with your heart.
Very happy and proud of you bro. Cheers.
Thanks, man. Really good comments here again.
>> so when they come to you, reply to you, are interested in you – means you’re the best option of the 100 fuckdates you were competing against.
^ This comment was in my head all day long. This is new POV for me. I’m just getting a chance to know what “hot girl game” feels like. And with that, the mindsets of a hot girl. New territory for me.
I love this comment, man.
>> “She swears I am the second guy she has fucked.”
>> Of course Nash, you’re special.
Both Riv and I are always arguing with you that 1. many girls need “3 dates” for sex and 2. girls haven’t ridden as much pole as you say they have.
I fucking swear they are not all like you say they are… and yet… : ]
>> she’s not a girl who would fuck a player the same day he picks her up, she’s NOT that kind of girl, she’s actually a quasi virgin who actually requires a lot of more comfort, you know, like dating and commitment. Dont you dare think that her marriage value is represented at all by her ability to give a complete stranger the best blow job 50 min after meeting him.
I am starting to see this more clearly.
That book about Female Psych… the thinking of those authors… is exactly like this (I will send all of you my notes on that book… I took pages and pages of notes). They don’t talk about girls lying about the number of lays they have had, but they are always talking about how manipulations gets them the baby, and the resources for herself and that baby. So much of the manipulation is to get/protect that option.
So your comment here about her “marriage value” sounds very much like their theories about how/why women manipulated us.
Quite an education. And if you see how ridiculously hard I have worked, just to get this peek at the “truth,” the average guy has no fucking chance of understanding this.
“girls haven’t ridden as much pole as you say they have.”
It’s not really how much pole they have ridden, but how much they want to ride it. The thing to focus on though is that any girl responding to YOU is being receptive to a guy who only wants to fuck her. That’s the guy she’s going out with.
This means that somewhere in all the girls who are, and will never be, receptive to your advances you’ll find the ones who dont like players.
I don’t know if they exist.
*This means that somewhere in all the girls who are [NOT], and will never be, receptive to your advances, you’ll find the ones who dont like players.
“It’s not really how much pole they have ridden, but how much they want to ride it.” -Yohami
and this is where we see the dangers of game, and fame, and whatever else happens to you when you break 300 bangs. if on one extreme we have the pedestalizing beta (and i still have part of him in me), then on the other extreme we have the cynical alpha.
of course, idealizing women is the quickest way to heartbreak, but when a man stops seeing the magic and joy and beauty and charm and mystery and elegance and divinity in women — well damn, that just makes life a lot less beautiful.
yohami has said similar things before, but i think what that phrase above he really nails his point on view on women.
in his world, ALL women are sluts and whores, even if they are virgins. because she is only a virgin now by chance, not by virtue. in reality, she wants to fuck a 1,000 men, that’s whats inside her.
it’s confusing reality with fears.
Riv, mr Riv, dear Riv.
First, here’s a famous quote by somebody:
“One of the biggest mistakes you can make is to think she is innocent.”
Here’s another famous quote:
“If she’s wearing high heels, she wants anal”
“The better she sucks dick, the more dick she has sucked.”
“Count her tattoos and body piercings. That’s the number of abortions she’s had.”
So, that’s you, or somebody hiding inside you. So somehow you turn this:
“It’s not really how much pole they have ridden, but how much they want to ride it.”
“in his world, ALL women are sluts and whores, even if they are virgins. because she is only a virgin now by chance, not by virtue. in reality, she wants to fuck a 1,000 men, that’s whats inside her.”
But that’s not what I said, and not what I meant, because my point is not that she wants to be a “whore fucking 1000 men”, but that she wants to fuck YOU. As I clearly stated in the following idea:
“The thing to focus on though is that any girl responding to YOU is being receptive to a guy who only wants to fuck her. That’s the guy she’s going out with.”
Get your madonna / whore issues fixed bro.
Otherwise, how do you reconcile this: you’re learning game to elicit sex from women – but you hate women who respond to game? doesn’t that make you hate any girl you’re able to attract? and yourself?
and part 2 might be even better:
“The thing to focus on though is that any girl responding to YOU is being receptive to a guy who only wants to fuck her. That’s the guy she’s going out with. This means that somewhere in all the girls who are NOT, and will never be, receptive to your advances you’ll find the ones who don’t like players. I don’t know if they exist.”
that’s like the groucho marx thing.
since yohami is a player who only wants to fuck girls, and he makes that clear, then any girl who is turned on by him, or goes on a date with him, or kisses him, well then she must be a WHORE because she is giving a BADY BOY the encouragement he needs to fuck her.
see how that works?
so even if she a virgin, or has a very low N count, she has immediately lost all that credibility and virtue because she is encouraging a bad boy to fuck her. that immediately puts her in the WHORE category. put her in the slut box, please!
i feel like there’s a certain amount of self-loathing in that way of seeing woman. it’s very weird.
“that’s like the groucho marx thing.”
Thanks for addressing the second line of that quote. Now how do you reconcile this:
“since yohami is a player who only wants to fuck girls, and he makes that clear, then any girl who is turned on by him, or goes on a date with him, or kisses him, well then she must be a WHORE because she is giving a BADY BOY the encouragement he needs to fuck her.”
With doing daygame, or game in general?
By doing game, any kind of game, you’re accepting that women respond to special triggers, and learning how to do these triggers.
When you pick up a girl in daygame, and try to protray confidence, and then don’t hide your dick, and try to be the man girls are attracted to, you’re initializing a sexual dance.
A sexual dance – not a marriage dance, not a full lifelong commitment dance. You are talking to them because you want to fuck them. That is the truth. And they know it.
So are the girls who want to fuck you, whores?
Do you hate them?
Or are you, in your imagination, a wolf hiding in sheep clothing, so you think you are fooling innocent virginal girls into a trap, and that they are attracted to you because of your humane characteristics and non-sexual manner and then when they are close enough, KACHING you show the teeth and get that dick out and fuck them out of nowhere and rob them of their innocence?
Are they coming to you because of their sexual lust, or are you ambushing them and raping them?
Which is it?
“All girls want sex, but all girls aren’t whores.” -Rivelino
i like todd’s simple breakdown of three “types” of girls:
-vegas party girls
-normal girl at your office
remember yohami how we talked about creating systems and structures to help get your teachings across? that is what todd does so well.
or maybe even this is better:
-spontaneous, adventurous girls with a lot of sexual experience
-girls with an average amount of sexual experience
-timid, shy girls with less sexual experience
does it make sense to treat all these girls the same way? will they all respond to the same things, at the same speed?
I asked you the definition of whore since you keep using the word, this is not a definition:
“-vegas party girls
-normal girl at your office
There are way many more types of girls than this – but this sounds like a scale of ‘sexual proactivity’, from the most sexual proactive to the most sexual passive, from higher experience to lower experience.
What is the whore you keep talking about, and why do you keep bringing it up?
“does it make sense to treat all these girls the same way? will they all respond to the same things, at the same speed?”
No, every girl has a ‘different puzzle’, but all girls like ‘the same man’, aka the cool guy, the alpha guy, the stud, the dominant unproblematic sexual beast. But not ‘all girls’ go ‘at the same speed’ just like not ‘all girls’ like ‘the same icecream flavor’
If you read what I’ve been saying (for ages) is that you give the girl “what she wants”, so you have to first understand what the girl wants.
Which is different with every girl.
At the same time:
“will they all respond to the same things”
There are things that are universal, otherwise “game” wouldnt be possible.
that’s a pretty good answer! i think your lessons are getting clearer.
so, for some girls, isn’t it possible that part of her puzzle is she has to feel a greater sense of trust and emotional connection with the man?
“so, for some girls, isn’t it possible that part of her puzzle is she has to feel a greater sense of trust and emotional connection with the man?”
Yes, some will need to be friends first for a few years before engaging in sex, some will need ultraviolence, some are passive, some are dominant.
However that thing you bring up is disconnected to the list you gave, because:
– Some very promiscuous girls need the emotional connection, they go from one crush to another, and even the in-between guys are there serving an emotional role
– Some very non-promiscuous girls, virginal girls, are detached from their sexuality and have sex as a bodily function.
If you’re presenting a scale to encompass all women where in one extreme you have very promiscuous girls, aka ‘whores’ with no virtue, and in the other you have virginal girls, aka ‘salvation’ with all the virtue, that’s not how it works, the model doesn’t match reality.
Out there you’ll find a lot of high N girls who only fuck betas, for example. Or sluts with hearts of gold. And virginal girls who are sociopaths. So if you want to split madonas and whores, come up with a definition that is applicable, don’t refer me to Todd when he’s not even talking about the same subject.
And here’s the important thing for you again:
A girl who responds to you while you’re doing Game in her, is a girl who wants to fuck an Alpha. A girl you pick up in the street and she says YES to your approach while you’re trying to be a Player, is a girl who wants to fuck a Player. A girl you do PUA stuff on and she likes it, is a girl who will fuck a PUA.
If she doesn’t fuck you, she’ll fuck another man who pulls it better. Just not you.
Talk to the pillow about it. Then tell me why it hurts.
This is good conversational humour when flirting with girls. Taking things out of context, being specific (shows calibration) and doubling down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9syO1bHeymc
Nerdwriter was also talking about how Louie CK tells a joke, and how he “stays in the joke” once people are laughing, or, repeating different variations or iterations of the joke as long as it’s effective, this is also called “tagging” in comedy. Louie himself learned that from Seinfeld. I put this here because that’s the “double down” in “what works” that I refer to so much. When something works, you make emphasis on it before moving on in the conversation / interaction.
“A girl who responds to you while you’re doing Game in her, is a girl who wants to fuck an Alpha. A girl you pick up in the street and she says YES to your approach while you’re trying to be a Player, is a girl who wants to fuck a Player. A girl you do PUA stuff on and she likes it, is a girl who will fuck a PUA.”
your explanations are getting better!