Vampire Theory
Vampire Theory…
I love the vampire analogy for older men and younger women.
(I wrote this as a comment on TheAntiFeminist.com… but liked it enough I’ll post here as well.)
The classic “vampiric exchange,” is the ancient vampire, consuming the virgin… But she kinda wants it to happen. He needs her naivete and the tonic of her innocence (its the main thing he’s lost) and she is intrigued by his wisdom. That’s a hot exchange. And one, I believe, that the myth of vampires is based on.
Older women don’t need or value my wisdom, in part, as she’s seen it/done it (or she thinks she has), and then, because she is old, laden w/ baggage, and is bitter about the 2nd act of her life. No disrespect… that’s what I see.
An interesting frame for an older man that likes younger women (=all men), is to play with the kink of the vampiric exchange. She will be repulsed by your age, by the smell of decay on you, and yet… drawn into the dark alley of your world, because some part of her knows that you have dark secrets to share. Disgust/love are each a side of the coin… she’s drawn to both.
I like this as a mental frame… And also as “content” to spit at girls in set. I would tell this kind of story mid-date, assuming she was attracted, and I’d do it in part as a way to disqualify myself, and also as a means to bait her into seeing she/I this way. Our “shadows” toast to this kind of seduction. Even telling this kind of story to “mature” girls can have an affect I like, assuming I never apologize for my appreciation of myself as a vampire or this kind of exchange.
I can feel the change in my status as I get older… Some club girl called me “Sir,” earlier this year… She was interested, but could feel the vampiric potential. I can stoke this with, “Ouu, I love it when you call me “Sir,” say that again.” (Credit: Alan Roger Currie) And lure her down the dark alley of my gifts.
Ha… #creepyhot. I love it.
PS… if you like this line of thought, you might check out the intro to The Libertine Reader. Do NOT buy that book. It is the ultimate in long-winded boringness. But the intro essay is brilliant red pill stuff.
“some part of her knows that you have dark secrets to share.”
i like this. dark secrets. the dangerous older man.
Nash
This is GOLD for me (who reads my blog knows I have the age challenge;)
“Some club girl called me “Sir,” earlier this year… She was interested, but could feel the vampiric potential. I can stoke this with, “Ouu, I love it when you call me “Sir,” say that again.” (Credit: Alan Roger Currie)” – I sometimes experience this with young chicks, too. Now I know how to deal with it correctly! cool.
And thanks man, you provide me with a missing link in my PUA positioning (self-image and subsequent styling etc.)
I see Krauser and understand the effect bad boy outfit perfectly but I’m not into rock music and now buying a leather jacket and rings feels inauthentic.
I’m neither dos equis most interesting man in the world, as I don’t have grey hair yet, if any I’m more the Hank Moody guy.
But Vampire is the theme! Of course!
Imagine: just yesterday I was with my Belarus KGB agent, I had to make her my GF because she’s just too perfect, so young and feminine but also ambitious and interested, has seen a bit from life already – SHE brought up the vampire thing, if we want to watch the movie together (I bite her in the neck all the time as she smells so good and she likes it so much)!!!
I told her that I’m bored to death by vampire films or even Twilight Zone.
Well, not any more ;)
Viva polarity! Viva DG!
>> I see Krauser and understand the effect bad boy outfit perfectly but I’m not into rock music and now buying a leather jacket and rings feels inauthentic.
I’m neither dos equis most interesting man in the world, as I don’t have grey hair yet, if any I’m more the Hank Moody guy.
Cool.
The “bad boy” thing that Krauser does… the “rocker” look is just one angle. They advise us to pick a sexy archetype and grow towards that. But there are many archetypes.
My wing Sundance is a smart guy, and he is interested in different types of archetypes. He was talking this week about Robert Green’s Art of Seduction. I read it years ago, didn’t get much out of it… but I do remember his “types.” Sundance has been referencing his types… makes me want to re-read that part.
My “type” is artsy/skater look. I mentioned this on your blog (I think). That “type” is it’s own kind of sexy. It’s not the “jock” or the “rocker” (which are also both good). Or “James Bond.” Or the “bad prep school boy.” But the artist/skate thing has it’s appeal… and it’s youthful, which makes it easier to match with girls much younger than me.
I date a lot of artists. And girls that like art. The type you “are” will say a lot about the girls you’re successful with.
But more importantly… the artist/skater IS authentic for me. I am very authentic as the “artist/skater” guy. I have been both, for many/many years.
As for the VAMPIRE… for me… that is like a way of thinking. Almost like a “mood.” I LOOK like an artist/skater. But I try to THINK like a vampire at times… when the moment calls for it.
Especially as an older guy… we trade “knowledge”/wisdom/confidence/know-how (which we should have, if we’ve made good use of our lives) for her “youth”/beauty/naivitee/innocence. The ancient vs the innocent. It’s a great trade.
But further… I like to play up the “vampire” bits, if it won’t totally freak her out. It’s another way that I am old/bad/mean/terrible vs her young/pretty/sweet/delicious.
This is me turning the “defect” of me being older into an asset.
I find talking about the vampiric exchange with girls sucks them in (if done right). Again, this is a very authentic conversation for me… because I’m congruent with it, it comes out well.
You might get shit-tested as you play this out w/ a girl… but if it’s TRUE for you, hold firm.
In the larger sense… “getting turned” into a vampire is similar to taking the redpill. Redpill = “no more pretty lies” = no more innocence. It’s not “pretty” but it’s a waking up.
I like that too.
And as a salty, seasoned vampire… I appreciate young, beautiful, naive little girls even more. The give me the thing I don’t have anymore. It’s touching and beautiful.
But if she spends enough time with me… she’ll become like me. And I’ll “turn” her into a vampire too. Just like some girl once turned me into a vampire (I lost my innocence). And then… I’ll likely want to start over w/ a new, innocent girl… that’s what the “ancient ones” crave.
That’s how this works.
Viva daygame.
Couldn’t agree more!
But the main point is authenticity and congruence here, I think. And then it’s true, one should think about who he is already and then, towards what archetype he wants to further develop. Then the outfit can be already the improved type even if the mindset/reference exp. is not yet fully there. Fake it until you make it.
You’re making me curious on Greene now: I like reading “PUA antiques”, I’m just reading Mystery Method (I think I never read it because during the armchair game phase it got quickly ousted by the GB of videos I bought;) and Greene is also an oldie but goldie…
A question re. your art girls – I like arts, too (painting, literature) – but generally my experience is that art girls tend to be a bit alternative/leftish and thus neglect/depreciate their appearance sometimes. E.g. I had once (pre game) a GF that studied at the best art school in the country, was nicely petite and the first girl asking me if I minded her swallowing (I couldn’t hold it for long after that;) But then we had an argument over her not being p. shaved – she said “I’m not a baby!” – WTF?
So what’s your experience with art girls in terms of aestetics?